APS Advanced AK209 Tactical AK74 Airsoft AEG Electric Blowback Rifle
16 Customer Reviews
by Danh P. on 11/21/2022
"Awesome airsoft rifle.
Only thing is the dust cover mount slightly moves when a sight is mounted but tighten the screws and will be good to go. Use the rear stock battery housing instead of the dust cover housing so less likely to shift your optic that's mounted.
Only thing is the dust cover mount slightly moves when a sight is mounted but tighten the screws and will be good to go. Use the rear stock battery housing instead of the dust cover housing so less likely to shift your optic that's mounted.
by Austin L. on 10/06/2018
"-Pros-
-Top and rear wiring.
-Quick-change spring system, and two additional springs included for field and CQB games.
-Sturdy build quality. Full metal save for polymer hand guard, pistol grip, foregrip, and stock.
-Rails that can fit most optics and grips (at least that I've tried).
-Comfortable ergonomics, and a simple yet stiff mag release.
-Cons-
-A few pieces came loose, but were easily tightened with a hex key.
-Rear wiring is a bit finicky. Occasionally while shooting in semi-auto, the power would simply cut off for seemingly no reason. Granted it's a very rare occasion (one power cut off after three days of use), but still annoying none the less.
Overall the ASK209 is a great beginner to middle level gun. Sure it may have a few tiny glitches, but it works great with my 7.4v lipo and hits hard at 400-430fps with .20's right out of the box.
One warning: do NOT use two batteries at once. It can and will blow a fuse if you do so.
-Top and rear wiring.
-Quick-change spring system, and two additional springs included for field and CQB games.
-Sturdy build quality. Full metal save for polymer hand guard, pistol grip, foregrip, and stock.
-Rails that can fit most optics and grips (at least that I've tried).
-Comfortable ergonomics, and a simple yet stiff mag release.
-Cons-
-A few pieces came loose, but were easily tightened with a hex key.
-Rear wiring is a bit finicky. Occasionally while shooting in semi-auto, the power would simply cut off for seemingly no reason. Granted it's a very rare occasion (one power cut off after three days of use), but still annoying none the less.
Overall the ASK209 is a great beginner to middle level gun. Sure it may have a few tiny glitches, but it works great with my 7.4v lipo and hits hard at 400-430fps with .20's right out of the box.
One warning: do NOT use two batteries at once. It can and will blow a fuse if you do so.
by Crystal P. on 09/09/2017
"What size rails are on this gun
by bridget b. on 12/08/2016
"upgraded from the cyma ak with the underfolding stock. this aps ak blows it out of the water! I the only problem was the ebb always screwed up the hop up by hitting te part you use to adjust the hop. I fixed this by cutting out the bar that pulled back the bolt which disabled the ebb which made the gun quieter.
by shulianne t. on 12/11/2014
"this is a fantastic ak i run an 11.1 15c lipo from matrix it used to be around 15 rps @ 400 fps now i made it into a DMR with semi-auto only i installed a matrix magnum torque motor and i have a lonex piston and a m130. the trigger response on this is awesome when i used the chrono before disabeling full-auto it was 22rps @ 490-500 fps the stock bucking is really nice and it also has a nearly perfect airseal.
i recomend this ak to anyone beginer or advanced player, even when this rifle was stock i hit 4 out of 5 quartars from 20 yards away, this thing is dead accurate, with the 6.04 stock barrel it is really nice you could get a 6.01 but you really don't need to. its just awesome, get this and thank me later.
i recomend this ak to anyone beginer or advanced player, even when this rifle was stock i hit 4 out of 5 quartars from 20 yards away, this thing is dead accurate, with the 6.04 stock barrel it is really nice you could get a 6.01 but you really don't need to. its just awesome, get this and thank me later.
by Lance C. on 09/28/2014
"Having had this for just under a month and having gone through it inside out, I think I can give some pre-skirmish impressions. Overall I'm very pleased, especially as someone who likes to take my guns apart, but the devil's in the details.
Externals
Meh. Receiver appears to be steel, everything else is pot metal (magnet test). Came initially with wobble in the lower handguard and the stock. Front/back and side/side wobble was eliminated by just tightening up a screw on the front lower handguard ring, and the remaining wobble was easily eliminated by padding with tape/velcro. Upper handguard actually had no wobble because it is held in with an extra thin metal ring, which is a bit unsightly but effective in ensuring there was no wobble on this piece. One thing to note is the upper handguard cannot be replaced with the ring (you can put it on without, but there may then be wobble, again, velcro/tape) without unscrewing the handguard fixer, which is no big deal really. The magwel is pretty loose. You'll likely get wobble on most standard AK mags, though less so on pts/bulgarian style mags. I addressed this, again, with some velcro padding inside the magwell. Doesn't eliminate all wobble, but reduces most of it. Note that even with wobble, I haven't had feeding issues. The extra magwell lip is a nice touch and easily removable. Some people may also be fans of the modified mag release, but I found it pretty pointless personally and replaced it with an old standard trigger guard I had lying around. One last nitpick that shows in the pics as well, this does not come with a fake cleaning rod and the front side/gas block are not sufficiently ridged to hold one, so there's just a lonely hole on the front grip.
EBB
Probably a point of concern, but the electric blowback is actually very simply implemented and can be completely disabled without even getting out the gearbox. The hybrid gearbox has a slit in the spring well that a blowback plate screwed to the charging handle fits into so that when the piston flies back, it will push the plate back as well. Disabling the blowback is just a matter of unscrewing the the plate from the handle and sliding it out like a dust cover button. I didn't bother, since it's already pretty unobtrusive and actually helps reinforce proper thumb placement when shooting off-hang holding the mag. Note that if you bunch up your wiring and don't push your stick battery all the way into the upper handguard, the charging handle can get caught and not return to closed position after a blowback, which is annoying but doesn't impact operation.
Takedown and Internals
This imo is a big strength of this gun over a lot of other BLOODYSCREENSOREAL metal AKs out there, but it could be seen as a downside for realism or people who want a gun they can play catch with without damaging (not me). The trunnions are kept in by hex screws instead of rivets. Again, a plus for me but probably not for most people in the market for an AK. I like being able to break the whole thing down like an old marui AK, which is a sharp contrast to, say, my E&L, which is pretty much unassailable without risking some serious damage. Online shop pics for the gun depict it with rivets, so maybe I got a special snowflake, but placement of the grub screws on the rear sight block suggests they expect you to be able to remove the entire front assembly to get out the gearbox (second grub screw on the bottom without room for even horizontal access).
Actual internals are surprisingly good. A big draw for this gun is the hybrid gearbox with the quick-change spring. It's pretty sturdy, and if it weren't for the awkward way they shaped it for EBB (basically, there's two dust cover button slits, and the actual dust cover button is non-standard and goes on a non-standard slit) I'd be getting these to drop into everything since the quick-change not only makes it easy to adjust for power, but it's one less pain point for putting the box back together. Quick note on the spring guide, the bearing's metal but the guide itself is a tough plastic so that's something worth replacing, regular spring guides should work with this just fine though this one has more teeth. Again, YMMV but when I cracked it open, other than greasing that made it look like it was assembled in a KFC, everything checked out for being able to run at least an m120. Gears were beefy steel and shimmed well. AOE was good too. I did not check airseal. Wiring was un-soldered type. I didn't address the hopup/inner barrel, since I plan on replacing those anyway, they look bog-standard stock, however. Overall, it seems pretty solid.
So overall impressions: solid for the value, but not for everyone. All the bells and whistles like the quick-change spring (comes with a spare M120 and M110, or at least mine did), magwell guide, etc. etc., makes it worthwhile. Though, at the same price point, if you're just looking to get a first gun or something you can shoot stock for cheap, a CYMA or JG would probably be a better proposition as you can probably get something equivalent of this in the quality spectrum for cheaper, just lacking the APS perks like the hybrid gearbox and whatnot. For me though, this is about as close to an ideal cheapie to tinker with and turn into a monster as I can get, only personal downfall is externals could have been better quality. Everything else is great.
Externals
Meh. Receiver appears to be steel, everything else is pot metal (magnet test). Came initially with wobble in the lower handguard and the stock. Front/back and side/side wobble was eliminated by just tightening up a screw on the front lower handguard ring, and the remaining wobble was easily eliminated by padding with tape/velcro. Upper handguard actually had no wobble because it is held in with an extra thin metal ring, which is a bit unsightly but effective in ensuring there was no wobble on this piece. One thing to note is the upper handguard cannot be replaced with the ring (you can put it on without, but there may then be wobble, again, velcro/tape) without unscrewing the handguard fixer, which is no big deal really. The magwel is pretty loose. You'll likely get wobble on most standard AK mags, though less so on pts/bulgarian style mags. I addressed this, again, with some velcro padding inside the magwell. Doesn't eliminate all wobble, but reduces most of it. Note that even with wobble, I haven't had feeding issues. The extra magwell lip is a nice touch and easily removable. Some people may also be fans of the modified mag release, but I found it pretty pointless personally and replaced it with an old standard trigger guard I had lying around. One last nitpick that shows in the pics as well, this does not come with a fake cleaning rod and the front side/gas block are not sufficiently ridged to hold one, so there's just a lonely hole on the front grip.
EBB
Probably a point of concern, but the electric blowback is actually very simply implemented and can be completely disabled without even getting out the gearbox. The hybrid gearbox has a slit in the spring well that a blowback plate screwed to the charging handle fits into so that when the piston flies back, it will push the plate back as well. Disabling the blowback is just a matter of unscrewing the the plate from the handle and sliding it out like a dust cover button. I didn't bother, since it's already pretty unobtrusive and actually helps reinforce proper thumb placement when shooting off-hang holding the mag. Note that if you bunch up your wiring and don't push your stick battery all the way into the upper handguard, the charging handle can get caught and not return to closed position after a blowback, which is annoying but doesn't impact operation.
Takedown and Internals
This imo is a big strength of this gun over a lot of other BLOODYSCREENSOREAL metal AKs out there, but it could be seen as a downside for realism or people who want a gun they can play catch with without damaging (not me). The trunnions are kept in by hex screws instead of rivets. Again, a plus for me but probably not for most people in the market for an AK. I like being able to break the whole thing down like an old marui AK, which is a sharp contrast to, say, my E&L, which is pretty much unassailable without risking some serious damage. Online shop pics for the gun depict it with rivets, so maybe I got a special snowflake, but placement of the grub screws on the rear sight block suggests they expect you to be able to remove the entire front assembly to get out the gearbox (second grub screw on the bottom without room for even horizontal access).
Actual internals are surprisingly good. A big draw for this gun is the hybrid gearbox with the quick-change spring. It's pretty sturdy, and if it weren't for the awkward way they shaped it for EBB (basically, there's two dust cover button slits, and the actual dust cover button is non-standard and goes on a non-standard slit) I'd be getting these to drop into everything since the quick-change not only makes it easy to adjust for power, but it's one less pain point for putting the box back together. Quick note on the spring guide, the bearing's metal but the guide itself is a tough plastic so that's something worth replacing, regular spring guides should work with this just fine though this one has more teeth. Again, YMMV but when I cracked it open, other than greasing that made it look like it was assembled in a KFC, everything checked out for being able to run at least an m120. Gears were beefy steel and shimmed well. AOE was good too. I did not check airseal. Wiring was un-soldered type. I didn't address the hopup/inner barrel, since I plan on replacing those anyway, they look bog-standard stock, however. Overall, it seems pretty solid.
So overall impressions: solid for the value, but not for everyone. All the bells and whistles like the quick-change spring (comes with a spare M120 and M110, or at least mine did), magwell guide, etc. etc., makes it worthwhile. Though, at the same price point, if you're just looking to get a first gun or something you can shoot stock for cheap, a CYMA or JG would probably be a better proposition as you can probably get something equivalent of this in the quality spectrum for cheaper, just lacking the APS perks like the hybrid gearbox and whatnot. For me though, this is about as close to an ideal cheapie to tinker with and turn into a monster as I can get, only personal downfall is externals could have been better quality. Everything else is great.
by John S. on 08/08/2014
"Not a lot of reviews on this gun yet, but lots of questions via facebook posts so I thought I would add a review.
The overall build of the gun is quite solid. It weighs around 6 pounds unloaded with no batteries. A small amount of play has developed in the front lower hand guard in the 6 months since I purchased it. The receiver cover has never closed properly on it's own due to a slight manufacturing defect (might only be limited to mine) that requires me to slightly squeeze the lower receiver together to fully lock it in. The metal receiver parts and outer barrel assembly have a nice matte black finish. The standard orange flash suppressor was easily removed for a more appropriate black metal one (14mm negative / counter-clockwise). Being a left handed shooter the custom selector switch does nothing for me, but righties that have tried it like it. I immediately, and easily, disconnected the blowback feature by simply opening the receiver cover. The ergonomic pistol grip is comfy. The mag release took some practice to get use to, but I now prefer it over the traditional style.
I am guessing it comes with a torque motor as it shoots around 14-15 rps with an 11.1 v li-poly and an M115 spring. The gun came with three springs in the box (~450 fps / ~425 fps / ~370fps). I have not had a need to crack the gearbox open yet so I cannot comment on the internals. The wiring appears to be the nicer silver plated. It has a large type 20 amp blade fuse easily replaced at any automotive store or radio shack. The motor connections are standard spade type for easy motor swap (a plus above CYMA which solders their motor connections). 8mm roller bearings are stock on this gun so one less future upgrade. A nice feature is the quick change spring. Simply remove the crane stock and the buffer tube (four screws) and swap the spring (7mm hex key needed). I've only put around 20k rounds through the gun and no problems to report. Shoots as straight as straight can be with a low velocity spherical plastic rounds with the stock barrel.
One of the key features is the ability to run two batteries simultaneously. The batteries must be of the same voltage and chemistry (ie 11.1 v li-poly or 9.6 v nimh). The wiring is done in parallel so you get the combined mAh of both batteries (NOT the combined voltage). What the heck does that mean? Basically the voltage of the battery (the higher the number) impacts how fast the gun shoots (yes there are other variables that affect the speed). The higher the mAh (milliamp hours) of the battery the longer it shoots before having to be recharged. If you use two 1600 mAh batteries you get 3200 mAh of run time.
The crane stock holds a standard crane stock type battery available here on Evike. I am using the BAT010 11.1 li-poly.
Under the receiver cover in the alternate battery position it can hold from a 8.4v to at least a 10.8v stick battery. You might be able to get a 12v stick battery in there, but since I do not own one I cannot say for sure. The Matrix BAT-LP-M003 11.1 li-poly stick battery can be used but requires a certain amount of finesse, patience and wire management to get it to fit.
In my opinion "standard" AK style mags (either 47 or 74) just do not look right with this gun. I am using the MAG-C106 450 round Polymer Bulgaria/Magpul PTS type. Tacti-cool gun requires tacti-cool mag. I also have an M4 and the Magpul PTS type AK mags fit perfectly into my M4 mag pouches.
Would I recommend this gun to someone? Absolutely!
The overall build of the gun is quite solid. It weighs around 6 pounds unloaded with no batteries. A small amount of play has developed in the front lower hand guard in the 6 months since I purchased it. The receiver cover has never closed properly on it's own due to a slight manufacturing defect (might only be limited to mine) that requires me to slightly squeeze the lower receiver together to fully lock it in. The metal receiver parts and outer barrel assembly have a nice matte black finish. The standard orange flash suppressor was easily removed for a more appropriate black metal one (14mm negative / counter-clockwise). Being a left handed shooter the custom selector switch does nothing for me, but righties that have tried it like it. I immediately, and easily, disconnected the blowback feature by simply opening the receiver cover. The ergonomic pistol grip is comfy. The mag release took some practice to get use to, but I now prefer it over the traditional style.
I am guessing it comes with a torque motor as it shoots around 14-15 rps with an 11.1 v li-poly and an M115 spring. The gun came with three springs in the box (~450 fps / ~425 fps / ~370fps). I have not had a need to crack the gearbox open yet so I cannot comment on the internals. The wiring appears to be the nicer silver plated. It has a large type 20 amp blade fuse easily replaced at any automotive store or radio shack. The motor connections are standard spade type for easy motor swap (a plus above CYMA which solders their motor connections). 8mm roller bearings are stock on this gun so one less future upgrade. A nice feature is the quick change spring. Simply remove the crane stock and the buffer tube (four screws) and swap the spring (7mm hex key needed). I've only put around 20k rounds through the gun and no problems to report. Shoots as straight as straight can be with a low velocity spherical plastic rounds with the stock barrel.
One of the key features is the ability to run two batteries simultaneously. The batteries must be of the same voltage and chemistry (ie 11.1 v li-poly or 9.6 v nimh). The wiring is done in parallel so you get the combined mAh of both batteries (NOT the combined voltage). What the heck does that mean? Basically the voltage of the battery (the higher the number) impacts how fast the gun shoots (yes there are other variables that affect the speed). The higher the mAh (milliamp hours) of the battery the longer it shoots before having to be recharged. If you use two 1600 mAh batteries you get 3200 mAh of run time.
The crane stock holds a standard crane stock type battery available here on Evike. I am using the BAT010 11.1 li-poly.
Under the receiver cover in the alternate battery position it can hold from a 8.4v to at least a 10.8v stick battery. You might be able to get a 12v stick battery in there, but since I do not own one I cannot say for sure. The Matrix BAT-LP-M003 11.1 li-poly stick battery can be used but requires a certain amount of finesse, patience and wire management to get it to fit.
In my opinion "standard" AK style mags (either 47 or 74) just do not look right with this gun. I am using the MAG-C106 450 round Polymer Bulgaria/Magpul PTS type. Tacti-cool gun requires tacti-cool mag. I also have an M4 and the Magpul PTS type AK mags fit perfectly into my M4 mag pouches.
Would I recommend this gun to someone? Absolutely!
by Ron G. on 02/20/2014
"I bought this gun as my first Airsoft gun. It shoots great and the best thing about it is that it has the two battery system. I can play all day long at a war game and never have to recharge. Also the top rail system is great for my optics. A great buy if you want an AK.
by Charles D. on 05/22/2013
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by Ethan B. on 01/04/2012
"just recieved this gun and all i can say is wow.
this is my third higher quality airsoft gun and so far my favorite. my others are an echo 1 m16a4/dmr and a hi-capa. this gun is rock solid metal. everything but the grip stock and some parts of the ris are a hard plastic material. the blowback is sick, powerful but not so hard that itll throw you off target. the rof is pretty good for a blowback mine shoots around 18 rounds a second!!! the accuracy is also pretty good. i can hit a 2ft wide target at 30 meters easy.
PROS:
+full metal,sturdy
+nice mag release (its the sam etype i use on my real steel ak74)
+nice rof
CONS:
+haven't found any yet
this is my third higher quality airsoft gun and so far my favorite. my others are an echo 1 m16a4/dmr and a hi-capa. this gun is rock solid metal. everything but the grip stock and some parts of the ris are a hard plastic material. the blowback is sick, powerful but not so hard that itll throw you off target. the rof is pretty good for a blowback mine shoots around 18 rounds a second!!! the accuracy is also pretty good. i can hit a 2ft wide target at 30 meters easy.
PROS:
+full metal,sturdy
+nice mag release (its the sam etype i use on my real steel ak74)
+nice rof
CONS:
+haven't found any yet
by Peter Z. on 10/15/2017
"Great gun but have had a few problems. Would recommend getting an m-4 or m-16.
by nick n. on 07/18/2012
"very good gun with good fps
pros;
nice fps
stable trigger assembly
cons;
orange tip is too big
grip is "eh"
pros;
nice fps
stable trigger assembly
cons;
orange tip is too big
grip is "eh"
by Connor W. on 04/18/2016
"I am updating my review from a while ago on this gun. After a few unsuccessful attempts to make this gun survive a full 10 minutes of playtime before something going awry, I finally fixed the problems it had. Here's what I did (should anyone have any trouble like I did)
First I looked at the gears (dry as a bone) and replaced them with fresh gears that were greased, swimming them as well. Next, I swapped out the motor witha high torque motor since the stock one was meh.. after I replaced those components I disabled the EBB (electric blowback) since it was finicky and was fairly easy to do.
Had my first game in a long time with the gun yesterday and it not only performed, it excelled! It had almost no issues and it survived the whole day. Hits hard, good power with the high torque motor, even an increased rate of fire with the EBB removed, stronger motor, and lubed gears.
Overall, the stock version has flaws for sure, but it is a great gun if you put in the time to mod it like I did! But as a gun you plan on buying without upgrading....don't even consider it :)
First I looked at the gears (dry as a bone) and replaced them with fresh gears that were greased, swimming them as well. Next, I swapped out the motor witha high torque motor since the stock one was meh.. after I replaced those components I disabled the EBB (electric blowback) since it was finicky and was fairly easy to do.
Had my first game in a long time with the gun yesterday and it not only performed, it excelled! It had almost no issues and it survived the whole day. Hits hard, good power with the high torque motor, even an increased rate of fire with the EBB removed, stronger motor, and lubed gears.
Overall, the stock version has flaws for sure, but it is a great gun if you put in the time to mod it like I did! But as a gun you plan on buying without upgrading....don't even consider it :)
by Connor W. on 08/08/2015
"Dissatisfied.
Got this gun back in the fall of 2014 as an intermediate AEG rifle, the only thing that impressed me the most...would be the tactical look and power behind it. I won't lie, this gun is powerful. Shoots around 425 with the strongest spring included (.20g). HOWEVER...I find the unreliability of mine to be outstanding. Granted, I may have just gotten a lemon of a gun, but it still makes me wonder if the 209 itself is just bad. I digress. Before I go into pro/con, keep in mind that it may not accurately reflect on the other AK209's that other people have and that mine may have been just plain bad.
Pros:
-hits hard
-dual battery capability
-sufficient rail system
-high ROF
-detachable single point sling mount included
-grip included
Cons:
-gearbox reliability is finicky (may need to upgrade gears)
-electric blowback tends to get stuck at half-cock
-for some reason my m4 stock tube wanted to rotate freely
-having two batteries connected at the same time may blow a fuse
-hop up is kind of difficult to move if you have bigger fingers (located inside the chamber)
Overall, it was good while it lasted. It fell short of it's true potential and would think twice if you are looking at this gun. Looks are not everything.
Got this gun back in the fall of 2014 as an intermediate AEG rifle, the only thing that impressed me the most...would be the tactical look and power behind it. I won't lie, this gun is powerful. Shoots around 425 with the strongest spring included (.20g). HOWEVER...I find the unreliability of mine to be outstanding. Granted, I may have just gotten a lemon of a gun, but it still makes me wonder if the 209 itself is just bad. I digress. Before I go into pro/con, keep in mind that it may not accurately reflect on the other AK209's that other people have and that mine may have been just plain bad.
Pros:
-hits hard
-dual battery capability
-sufficient rail system
-high ROF
-detachable single point sling mount included
-grip included
Cons:
-gearbox reliability is finicky (may need to upgrade gears)
-electric blowback tends to get stuck at half-cock
-for some reason my m4 stock tube wanted to rotate freely
-having two batteries connected at the same time may blow a fuse
-hop up is kind of difficult to move if you have bigger fingers (located inside the chamber)
Overall, it was good while it lasted. It fell short of it's true potential and would think twice if you are looking at this gun. Looks are not everything.
by Tal K. on 05/25/2017
"Can't get this thing feeding reliably with anything other than a hicap, which is a deal-breaker for me.