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EMG Black Rain Ordnance BRO 9mm Gas Blowback Airsoft Rifle (Model: Carbine / Black / Reload Package)
8 Customer Reviews
by Nathan V. on 03/15/2023
"This is my favorite airsoft gun I own now. It is light, yet sturdy. It is mostly made of metal, except the handle and lower receiver. The stock wobbles just a little bit. Other than that I really enjoy this gun, I highly recommend to anyone looking for a good cqb primary.
by Jaquavious S. on 02/22/2023
"I LOVE IT!
I want to upgrade the bolt, buffer, and mag catch!
DO NOT USE G17 mags. MY G18c and 26 mags work.
I want to upgrade the bolt, buffer, and mag catch!
DO NOT USE G17 mags. MY G18c and 26 mags work.
by Frank T. on 09/19/2024
"Got the red and gold edition from a mystery box. Mag leaks from the first time I filled it. (Will get hpa tap anyway) Feels light which doesn't help the cheap feeling but would be nice to carry. Will be fun but I would not pay close to full price for this! Also the grip is terrible but easy to change. Let it rain! lol
by Dawson H. on 07/12/2024
"Had it for over a year and it works fine just make sure to not strip the screws when adjusting the HopUp like I did.
by Joselito F. on 11/27/2022
"Purchased in November 2022 at sale price of 386.xx USD for the Black SBR model
Was looking for a GBB SBR as I mainly play cqb fields but something that can be used for outdoor fields if needed. The EMG BRO PCC SBR appealed to me due to its length and fps range out of the box. I have had experience with GBBs for over a decade now and my review of this product will be compared and contrasted with my experience with other GBBs such as WE M14s, TM Mk18 MWS, KWA NS2 1911, Hi-Capas, etc..
Light but sturdy and solid which is what I appreciate in a cqb weapon, much lighter than the MWS
Finish on receiver is good but appears to scratch relatively easier than cerakote
EMG stock is nice with minimal to none wobble. For aesthetics, I did swap it out with the King Arms TWS tan stock sold here which also has a locking lever to reduce wobble.
Handguard is nice and solid, no wobble and no radial shifting. Its screwed solid which is a good thing but because of the hopup dial placement, makes it a bad thing too. See below
Hopup dial is on the bottom of the outer barrel close to the barrel nut and because of the handguard, there is no way to adjust it without removing the handguard. WE M14 was cumbersome to adjust but only really required to seperate the receiver from the woodstock. Its way less than this and this is what is a bit disappointing. There are 8 screws that have to be removed and 7 of the 8 appear to be loctited which makes adjusting hopup a pita initially and a minor pita later on.
14mm NEG threading and the flashhider is attached with a grub screw at the 6oclock position. May also be loctited but I have no plans on adding addition length so not an issue for me
Steel parts are nice having dealt with pot metal trigger groups and internals that eventually fall apart like the WE M14 trigger group and KWA 1911. The trigger group is steel but appears to have a crunchy feeling, not mushy, maybe needs a break in period.
Flip up sights are decent and the rear sight comes with a larger ghost sight perfect for CQB if your face protection allows you to use it. Rear sight has adjustable windage with a dial on the right and appears to hold well.
Safety works only when chambered much like a real AR so dont force it
FPS with .23s was 336 at the highest and 308 at the lowest, ive read that there are compatible adjustable valve and nozzle kits but have not tried it myself. For reference, MWS adjustable nozzles can adjust from 300 to 380 so it would be nice to be able to have one for this in the future
Rate of fire is nice thanks to the lighter bolt but I rarely use full auto due to gas consumption and standard capacity mags. If you need it, it wont let you down so long as you gas up right. I got 1.5 mags with a 30 round mag, so 45 rounds with a 5 second fill with about 5 more rounds worth of gas to spare before sputtering.
Accuracy is pretty good for an SBR and at 70ft, I was hitting a 6 inch target 4/5 shots with a grouping of about 3 inches using iron sights. Again, hopup adjustment needs to be made readily accessible because the whole handguard thing is a major setback. Luckily, with .23s I was shooting fairly flat so its fine for now.
I cant speak much on mag compatability except for a Matrix 50 round extended mag that works and locks back on empty. The original King Arms 30 round mag works well and is a snug fit but I do notice the bolt lock back on the last round on random occasions.
Recoil is snappy but could be tighter with some spring and buffer changes. About a bit as strong as the base MWS but much quicker in reset. Not as loud as the MWS but has a nice ping without the ringing sound my MWS has.
Dust Cover does not lock back and the retention pin block is partially loose and shifts slightly. Can be fixed, shouldnt have to be, but silver lining is the nice gold colored bolt
BCG is nice and nozzle loader appears to be high impact polymer which is good so it doesnt destroy your BB or feed lips. I havent checked the valve material or the return spring so I cant talk much on it.
Body pins are captive but appears to require popping out the front one first in order to fully pop out the rear one. The selector switch seems a little too easy to pop out.
IN CONCLUSION
Its been a couple of weeks but I havent had any issues other than the major inconvenience that is known as adjusting the hopup. Build is great but time will tell with the trigger group, hopup, and the "loose" fire selector so fingers crossed it will be a pleasant surprise and surpass my still perfectly running $75 12 year old HiCapa
Was looking for a GBB SBR as I mainly play cqb fields but something that can be used for outdoor fields if needed. The EMG BRO PCC SBR appealed to me due to its length and fps range out of the box. I have had experience with GBBs for over a decade now and my review of this product will be compared and contrasted with my experience with other GBBs such as WE M14s, TM Mk18 MWS, KWA NS2 1911, Hi-Capas, etc..
Light but sturdy and solid which is what I appreciate in a cqb weapon, much lighter than the MWS
Finish on receiver is good but appears to scratch relatively easier than cerakote
EMG stock is nice with minimal to none wobble. For aesthetics, I did swap it out with the King Arms TWS tan stock sold here which also has a locking lever to reduce wobble.
Handguard is nice and solid, no wobble and no radial shifting. Its screwed solid which is a good thing but because of the hopup dial placement, makes it a bad thing too. See below
Hopup dial is on the bottom of the outer barrel close to the barrel nut and because of the handguard, there is no way to adjust it without removing the handguard. WE M14 was cumbersome to adjust but only really required to seperate the receiver from the woodstock. Its way less than this and this is what is a bit disappointing. There are 8 screws that have to be removed and 7 of the 8 appear to be loctited which makes adjusting hopup a pita initially and a minor pita later on.
14mm NEG threading and the flashhider is attached with a grub screw at the 6oclock position. May also be loctited but I have no plans on adding addition length so not an issue for me
Steel parts are nice having dealt with pot metal trigger groups and internals that eventually fall apart like the WE M14 trigger group and KWA 1911. The trigger group is steel but appears to have a crunchy feeling, not mushy, maybe needs a break in period.
Flip up sights are decent and the rear sight comes with a larger ghost sight perfect for CQB if your face protection allows you to use it. Rear sight has adjustable windage with a dial on the right and appears to hold well.
Safety works only when chambered much like a real AR so dont force it
FPS with .23s was 336 at the highest and 308 at the lowest, ive read that there are compatible adjustable valve and nozzle kits but have not tried it myself. For reference, MWS adjustable nozzles can adjust from 300 to 380 so it would be nice to be able to have one for this in the future
Rate of fire is nice thanks to the lighter bolt but I rarely use full auto due to gas consumption and standard capacity mags. If you need it, it wont let you down so long as you gas up right. I got 1.5 mags with a 30 round mag, so 45 rounds with a 5 second fill with about 5 more rounds worth of gas to spare before sputtering.
Accuracy is pretty good for an SBR and at 70ft, I was hitting a 6 inch target 4/5 shots with a grouping of about 3 inches using iron sights. Again, hopup adjustment needs to be made readily accessible because the whole handguard thing is a major setback. Luckily, with .23s I was shooting fairly flat so its fine for now.
I cant speak much on mag compatability except for a Matrix 50 round extended mag that works and locks back on empty. The original King Arms 30 round mag works well and is a snug fit but I do notice the bolt lock back on the last round on random occasions.
Recoil is snappy but could be tighter with some spring and buffer changes. About a bit as strong as the base MWS but much quicker in reset. Not as loud as the MWS but has a nice ping without the ringing sound my MWS has.
Dust Cover does not lock back and the retention pin block is partially loose and shifts slightly. Can be fixed, shouldnt have to be, but silver lining is the nice gold colored bolt
BCG is nice and nozzle loader appears to be high impact polymer which is good so it doesnt destroy your BB or feed lips. I havent checked the valve material or the return spring so I cant talk much on it.
Body pins are captive but appears to require popping out the front one first in order to fully pop out the rear one. The selector switch seems a little too easy to pop out.
IN CONCLUSION
Its been a couple of weeks but I havent had any issues other than the major inconvenience that is known as adjusting the hopup. Build is great but time will tell with the trigger group, hopup, and the "loose" fire selector so fingers crossed it will be a pleasant surprise and surpass my still perfectly running $75 12 year old HiCapa
by Kyle M. on 03/11/2024
"If you are looking for a PCC GBBR this will definitely scratch that itch and is a cool rifle to use. However there are several flaws with this rifle to where if you are just looking for a pdw/SBR style GBBR there are several other options in this price point that simply outclass it. Namely
The EMG/WE KAC PDW.
First off, the hop is adjustable but it is very difficult to access and gives inconsistent results. you must remove the front handguard which is easy, if the screws weren’t so prone to stripping. Be careful removing and reassembling the handguard. Putting it on Too tight and you will strip the screws when you inevitably go to take it back off to adjust the hop (which you likely will be doing often), putting it on too loose and the recoil will shake the screws out. As opposed to the WE system where the hop is simply a rotary wheel you access by racking the bolt back. The WE can hit a dinner plate at 75-100feet. This king arms PCC will put out a torso sized spread, with a couple fliers.
Externally the quality is decent. Feels solid and is lightweight. However my WE GBBRs have higher quality receivers.
Elite force green gas mags work perfectly (both extended and regular size). Efficiency is solid with both as well. Being able to clear full mags.
The recoil buffer spring gives a non so pleasant twang. Sounds toyish compared to other GBBRs.
TLDR; if you want a PCC for CQB get it if it’s on sale, otherwise you’re better off getting a WE KAC PDW at this price point.
The EMG/WE KAC PDW.
First off, the hop is adjustable but it is very difficult to access and gives inconsistent results. you must remove the front handguard which is easy, if the screws weren’t so prone to stripping. Be careful removing and reassembling the handguard. Putting it on Too tight and you will strip the screws when you inevitably go to take it back off to adjust the hop (which you likely will be doing often), putting it on too loose and the recoil will shake the screws out. As opposed to the WE system where the hop is simply a rotary wheel you access by racking the bolt back. The WE can hit a dinner plate at 75-100feet. This king arms PCC will put out a torso sized spread, with a couple fliers.
Externally the quality is decent. Feels solid and is lightweight. However my WE GBBRs have higher quality receivers.
Elite force green gas mags work perfectly (both extended and regular size). Efficiency is solid with both as well. Being able to clear full mags.
The recoil buffer spring gives a non so pleasant twang. Sounds toyish compared to other GBBRs.
TLDR; if you want a PCC for CQB get it if it’s on sale, otherwise you’re better off getting a WE KAC PDW at this price point.
by Rory B. on 02/22/2023
"Be warned. This rifle does not come with the bro hex hcc compensator but instead with an orange birdcage comp. Nowhere on the sales page is this apparent. It just says optic not included while there is not even an optic shown in all the pictures. It has been pointed out to the sales reps that the information is inaccurate but no changes have been made. At this point it’s false advertising.
The rifle itself is fine. And you will have to buy your own bro compensator. Be sure to replace the 8 screws securing the front rail. I immediately stripped two screws because it’s steel in aluminium. The barrel nut is alluminium and will chemically interact with the steel screw making removing it quite cumbersome. Be sure to put some Vaseline on the screw before putting it back in.
The accuracy out of the box is not great. Will have fliers. But o really like this rifle so I can have one pool for both my rifle and primary.
The supplied magazine works great with the low capacity spacer included. 30 rounds. Removing the spacer will cause issues not always locking back the bolt due to reduced spring tension. The supplied magazine is king arms tws v2. Easy to remove and install the spacer without having to remove the bottom seal. A full spring replacement or some modding will be needed to have it reliably bolt lock back with the spacer removed which will have capacity of 50 bb’s.
Looking forward to experiment with different barrel and hopup along the way to get distance accuracy up. For air action type of stuff it feels great and snappy.
The rifle itself is fine. And you will have to buy your own bro compensator. Be sure to replace the 8 screws securing the front rail. I immediately stripped two screws because it’s steel in aluminium. The barrel nut is alluminium and will chemically interact with the steel screw making removing it quite cumbersome. Be sure to put some Vaseline on the screw before putting it back in.
The accuracy out of the box is not great. Will have fliers. But o really like this rifle so I can have one pool for both my rifle and primary.
The supplied magazine works great with the low capacity spacer included. 30 rounds. Removing the spacer will cause issues not always locking back the bolt due to reduced spring tension. The supplied magazine is king arms tws v2. Easy to remove and install the spacer without having to remove the bottom seal. A full spring replacement or some modding will be needed to have it reliably bolt lock back with the spacer removed which will have capacity of 50 bb’s.
Looking forward to experiment with different barrel and hopup along the way to get distance accuracy up. For air action type of stuff it feels great and snappy.
by Jayson H. on 08/19/2024
"Got one of these from a mystery box, the paint they use gets into the trigger housing and causes full auto issues. Also the bolt being aluminum, is of the cheap grade. You could see it's rare and tear stack up as you shoot it. When you hold in your hand, it feels like it's made of that aluminum that's used for those really light chairs. Get a different gbbr!